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e e subcommittee will come to order the chair recognizes himself for an opening statement good afternoon and welcome to today's subcommittee markup we are considering four pieces of legislation to counter the significant threats posed

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by the Chinese Communist Party CCP the communications networks in the United States and around the world the CC CP poses a significant threat to American Security and economic leadership one significant area where we see this is

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the communications sector China is aggressively trying to overtake the United States as the global leader in Communications and Technology they export their heavily subsidized equipment to developing countries try to dominate International

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standard forms and can exploit security vulnerabilities and equipment to spy on Americans and disrupt our networ n works as Americans increasingly rely on con connectivity in everyday life the security of the equipment they use becomes

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paramont given the known vulnerabilities and many Technologies produced by companies with ties to the CCP it is imperative to take steps to mitigate the widespread availability of this equipment for years this subcommittee

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has prioritize addressing the threat posed by the CCP this includes passing the secure and trusted Communications networks act which created a program to rip and replace Huawei and ZTE equipment from our networks I am frustrated

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however that we still have not found a way to fully fund this program today's markup Builds on our bipar and tradition with four important pieces of legislation the first bill we are considering is HR 2864 the countering CCP drones act which

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would add equipment produced by DJ Technologies to the fcc's covered list effectively Banning it from the United States DJI is another company that has ties to the CCP making their products a significant threat to our national security we will

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also consider HR 820 the foreign adversaries Communications transparency act which will require the FCC to annually publish a list of entities with ties to China Iran North Korea or Russia that hold an FCC license or authorization next we will consider HR

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1513 the future networks act introduced by the ranking member the general lady from California which will require the FCC to establish a 6G task force made up of both the public and private sectors to develop a report on the standards

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development process and possible uses of sixth generation Tech technology finally I'm pleased to lead HR 7589 the routers act this legislation require ntia to study whether certain routers and modems produced by companies

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with ties to our adversaries POS an unacceptable risk to our national security Chinese state sponsored companies make unsecured routers that are easily susceptible to cyber attacks and serve as entry points for Bad actors into consumers homes Networks and

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devices fortunately the US has taken strong steps to keep Huawei and ZT out of our homes and networks and I'm proud that this bill Builds on those efforts I'd like to thank the members of the subcommittee for their work on these

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bills and I'm pleased that we're able to move forward on this legislation today and with that I will yield back and I now recognize the general lady from California's 7th District the ranking member of the subcommittee for five

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minutes for an opening statement thank you very much Mr chairman I'm glad that this committee continuing its important work to reinforce us leadership while securing existing Technologies against Bad actors competition in the Global

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Tech Marketplace has never been higher nor its consequences more significant from semiconductors to Next Generation Communications networks American leadership is both an economic and National Security imperative I know

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firsthand from my work on the chips act that our economy and milit AR are at their strongest when America is at The Cutting Edge of innovation for years America was home to the most advanced semiconductor design and Manufacturing

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processes in the market that ensured our military had access to technology Generations ahead of our adversaries making America's armed services the most sophisticated in the world but when we fall behind as was the case in

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semiconductors our economy slows and Military Readiness is threatened our Communications networks are no different we must ensure the United States Remains the Vanguard of innovation in the face of increased Global competition

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thankfully this committee has had a strong track record of boosting American innovation through legislation like we're considering today I'm glad to see my future networks act on the agenda for the United States to stay ahead of the

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rest of the world and Wireless Communications we need to be taking steps to prepare for the next generation of networks because the economic and National Security stakes in the global race to 6G couldn't be higher as China

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leans on Huawei and other companies to advance its interest in international standard setting bodies the US needs to stay vigilant and engaged this bill would assemble our nation's brightest Minds from industry government and

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Academia on a 6G task force the task force provide vital insights on the development of 6G and these strategically important standards bodies this bipartisan bill would make a critical down crucial down payment on American leadership by ensuring the US

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is taking the necessary steps to lead I'm also glad to see chairman L's routers act being Advanced today this bill would help eliminate routers and modems produced by our foreign adversaries from operating in US Networks routers and modems process huge

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amounts of America's personal data and if insecure they provide a perfect backd door for our foreign adversaries to exploit this bill is a powerful step toward securing our digital ecosystem we'll also be considering legislation to

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combat the influence of adversarial governments across the technological landscape taken together these bills have both address existing vulnerabilities while preventing new weakly LS in crucial Technologies I'm glad to be moving these bills to the

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full committee and eventually the floor and with that you'll back the balance of my time thank you very much the general lady yields back the chair now recognizes the general lady from Washington the chair of the full committee for five minutes for an

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opening statement good afternoon and thank you chairman L today we are marking up four important pieces of legislation that will secure Communications networks from threats posed by the Chinese communist party and promote us technological leadership I

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want to thank my colleagues on both sides of the aisle for their work on these bills China poses a significant threat to the security of our Communications networks companies with ties to the CCP operate in an environment tightly intertwined with the

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Chinese government raising raising serious concerns about the level of in influence and potential for exploitation by the CCP under China's two 2017 National Intelligence law these companies are required to support provide assistance to and cooperate with

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China's national intelligence work wherever they operate which could jeopardize equipment used in American Communications networks relying on these Technologies comes with significant risk to our national security this isn't the

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first time we've worked to address these threats in 2020 we pass the secure and trusted Communications networks act to remove hwei and ZTE entirely from our networks yet more work is needed to thoroughly address these threats

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vulnerability in consumer equipment such as routers and drones could be exploited by adversaries to spy on the public that's why I'm pleased that we're marking up chairman L's routers act which will would direct the national

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telecommunications and information Administration to study what consumer routers and modems pose security risk we're also considering legislation from Miss stonic to add the Drone manufacturer DJI which also has ties to the CCP to

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the Federal Communications commission's covered list which would prevent these drones from operating in the United States we should also know when CCP influence influence companies have communications licenses and Equipment

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authorizations in the United States which is why today we're considering HR 2864 this transparency is important to understanding which adversaries are present in our Communications networks as well as the threat they pose finally

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we're marking up Ms matsui's future networks act which would direct a 6G task force to develop a report on Sixth Generation Wireless technology carriers are deploying 56 or 5G across the country and we must look to the Future

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and make sure we are leading the development of these emerging Technologies this task force will ensure that the us both industry and government are doing what is needed to cement our leadership in 6G and win the future the United States faces

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exceedingly complex threats from China and other adversaries that require a comprehensive and coordinated response this response must include efforts to secure critical Supply chains protect our allies strengthen cyber security

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defenses and engage in strategic competition with China in key Technologies failure to address these challenges not only jeopardizes our economic competitiveness and National Security but also risk seating ground to an adversarial power intent on reshaping

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the global order in its favor that's why I'm proud of the impressive bills on today's agenda which address these issues and continue the bipartisan tradition of the committee I want to thank the sponsors and the staff for

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their hard work and I look forward to moving these bills to full committee Mr chairman I yield back thank you the Gent ao's back and the chair now recognizes the gentleman from New Jersey the ranking member of the full committee for

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five minutes for an opening statement thank you chairman L today the subcommittee will consider four bills many of which are bipartisan to protect Americans and our Vital Communications networks from foreign adversaries and Bad actors and our communication

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networks playing aent roll across almost every sector of our economy and touch many parts of Americans daily lives robust networks allow Americans to have easier access to doctors teachers and job opportunities they're also vital to

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our nation's critical infrastructure Public Safety Systems Supply chains and government functions as technology advances the role they play will only become greater but this growing reach has made our Communications networks and

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the devices that run on them targets that face constant threats from amateur hackers and adversarial Nations fortunately this committee has a robust history of protecting America's networks from security threats while also

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allowing our country to remain a global leader in Communications technology so I look forward to continuing this work by advancing the four bills before us today these bills will protect Americans and our Communications networks from threats

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in our rapidly evolving technological landscape they will also ensure that the most advanced Wireless Technologies are designed to be safe and secure and the bills include HR 1513 the future networks act led by subcommittee ranking

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member mat sui this bill will establish a task force at the FCC to study sixth generation or 6G Technologies and identify potential supply chain and cyber security vulnerabilities as the next generation of technology is developed we must understand the

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potential risks to best protect our networks and strengthen the Technologies design and finally as we discussed the importance of securing our Communications networks it's also critical that we continue to ensure all Americans have access to high-speed

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reliable and affordable internet service closing the digital divide is essential because Broadband is no longer a luxury but a necessity internet connectivity is needed so everyone gets a fair chance to connect to the internet and participate

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in today's economy eliminating the gaps will ensure that all communities can grow their economies for the future and will allow us to continue to lead the world in technological innovation with the to bipartisan infrastructure law

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committee Democrats made historic investments in programs that will help close the digital divide and connect every American to Modern opportunities and prosperity unfortunately the affordable connectivity program is in

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danger of running out of funding within the next couple of months this program has been a game Cher helping more than 23 million American households across every state and every congressional district bring affordable internet access to their homes without

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Congressional action these families will lose access to education and economic opportunities Modern Health Care and a lot more so I'm ready to work with my Republican colleagues to pass representative Clark's bipartisan affordable connectivity program

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extension act to extend funding for this program we must act quickly to pass this legislation so we can keep our constituents and All American families connected with that Mr chairman I yield back the balance of my time well thank

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you very much the gentleman yield back the balance B of his time the chair reminds members that pursuing to committee rules all members opening statements will be made part of the record are there any further opening statements seeing

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none the shair calls up HR 2864 and ask the clerk to report HR 2864 a bill to amend the secure and trusted Communications networks Act of 2019 to provide without objection the first reading the bill is dispensed with and the bill will be open

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for Amendment at any point so ordered does anyone seek recognition on the bill are there any bipartisan amendments are there any other amendments what purpose does the gentleman from Texas 11th District seek recognition Mr chairman I have an

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amendment in the nature of a substitute at the disc thank you the clerk will report the amendment amendment in the nature of a substitute to HR R 2864 offered by Mr fluger of Texas strike all after the enacting clause and insert thank you

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very without objection the reading of the amendment is dispensed with and the gentle gentleman from Texas 11th District is recognized for five minutes in support of the amendment thank you Mr chairman and I'll keep this very brief

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drones from CCP aligned companies are a serious threat and these drones can collect a significant amount of data and images as they fly over like all CCP organizations DJI is subject to China's national intelligence laws which

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requires companies to support assist and cooperate with National Intelligence efforts if requested DJI would be forced to turn over any American data they collect that's why we must prevent the FCC from authorizing these drones from

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operating inside the United States removing these drones is essential for our national security and I'm proud to support this legislation and my amendment is very simple it ensures that we are comprehensive in banning all

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technology produced by by DJI including software any technology produced by AR Aries is uh vulnerability so we need to ensure that we address the entire threat I urge my colleagues to support this amendment it has bipartison support and

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support from the sponsors and I yield back thank you the chairman yields back is there any further discussion on the amendment seeing none if there's no further discussion on the amendment the vote occurs on the amendment all those

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in favor signif by by saying I I all those oppos nay the eyes have it and the amendment is agreed to is there any further discussion on the amended Bill thing none does the ranking member ask for recorded vote okay question now occurs on forwarding

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hr20 864 as Amendment to the full committee all those in favor say I I those oppos nay the I have it the bill is agreed to a recorded vote his requested I heard no no okay a recorded vote is requested the clerk will take the role Bill arus

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Walberg Walberg votes I Carter done Curtis Joyce Joyce votes I Weber Weber votes I Allan Allen votes I balderson balderson votes I fure fure votes I fluger fluger votes I harburger harburger votes I kamik oberti cherat I cherat votes I matui I

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matsi votes I Clark VC SoDo I SoDo votes I ASU cardinas Craig Craig votes I Fletcher Fletcher votes I Dingle Dingle votes I kuster kuster votes I Kelly Kelly votes I palone palone votes I chair Rogers chair Rogers votes

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I Mr Carter is not recorded Carter votes I Mr bakus is not recorded bakus votes I are there any other members wishing to be recorded Mr VC is not recorded BC votes I are there any other members wishing to be recorded seeing none the clerk will report the result

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chair L on that vote there were 21 eyes and zero nose thank you the eyes haven't the bills agreed to and will be forwarded on to the full committee chair now calls up HR 820 and ask the clerk to report HR 820 a bill to direct the

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Federal Communications Commission to publish a list of entities that hold authorization licenses or other grants of author objection the first reading of the bill is dispensed with and the bill will be open for Amendment at any point

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so ordered does anyone seek recognition on the bill are there any bipartisan amendments uh the gentleman from Georgia uh has an amendment at the desk the clerk will report an amendment in the nature of a substitute to HR 820 offered by Mr Allen

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of Georgia strike all after the enacting Clause without objection the reading of the amendment is suspens with and the gentleman from Georgia's 12th District is recognized for five minutes in support of his Amendment uh thank you Mr

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chairman uh this is an amendment in the nature of a substitute of HR 820 the foreign advis adversary Communications transparency act Mr chairman this is a very important bill we have adversaries that are committed to overtaking our

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economic leadership which threaten our National Security some have licenses and different authorizations from the Federal Communications Commission which they can use to broadcast their propaganda interfere with our communication networks or even spy on

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Americans we need to know which foreign adversaries have these licenses and authorizations which is why I am proud to support this legislation from Mrs stonic that would require the FCC to publish a list of these countries my

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Amendment would incorporate technical assistance from from the FCC and others to ensure that this bill can be implemented according to its intent I urge my colleagues to support this amendment it has the support from both

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the majority and the minority as well as the sponsors of the legislation and with that I yield back thank you very much the gentleman yields back is there any further discussion on the amendment hearing none if there's no

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further discussion on the amendment the vote occurs on the amendment all those in favor signify by saying I I all those oos oos nay eyes have it and the amendment is agreed to is there any further discussion on the bill as

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amended hearing none the question now occurs on forwarding HR 820 to the full committee and a request a request is for a recorded vote the clerk will take the role bakus Walberg Walberg vot votes I Carter Carter votes I dun Curtis Joyce Joyce

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votes I Weber Weber votes I Allen Allen votes I balderson balderson votes I fuler fure votes I fluger fluger votes I harshbarger harshbarger votes I kamik obaly cherla I cherla votes I Matsui I Matsui votes I Clark VC VC votes I SoDo Soto votes I ASU

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cardinus cardinus votes I Craig Craig votes I Fletcher Fletcher votes I Dingle Dingle votes I kuster kuster votes I Kelly Kelly votes I palone palone votes I chair Rogers chair Rogers votes I are there any members wishing to have

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their vote recorded gentleman from Florida billus votes I are there any other members wishing to be recorded hearing none the clerk will uh report the result chair L on that vote there were 22 eyes and zero nose thank you the bill as amended as agreed

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to and uh will be reported to the full committee and the chair now calls up hr1 1513 ask the clerk to report hr1 1513 a bill to direct the Federal Communications Commission to establish a task force to be known as the six than you without objection the

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first reading of the bill is dispensed with and the bill will be open for Amendment at any point so ordered does anyone seek recognition on the bill that for what purpos G lady the ranking member of the subcomittee seek

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recognition Mr chairman I move to strike the last word gentle lady is recognized to strike the last word five minutes thank you Mr chairman as I said in my opening statement the race racist 6G isn't just about faster phones it's

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about National Security the economy and American stand stand ing on the international stage if we lead This Global Technology will be based on our values democracy open markets and transparency but if we fall behind America's foreign adversaries will have

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a new venue to expand their reach that means less openness and more top-down control more and more this fight is being fought in global standard setting bodies that write the rules of the road for 6G these entities decide which

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technologies will be adopted and given the global scale needed to succeed I'm concerned that other countries appreciate these stakes and are taking action if the United States doesn't get off the sidelines we could very well

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lose this race that's why I'm so glad to see this bipartisan Bill moving forward today it will ensure our brightest Minds industry government and Academia are advising the US on the strategically vital development of 6G by convening a

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6G task force I'm confident will be in a better position to leverage America's strengths to our advantage that means encouraging competition not trying to stifle it demanding transparency and the free flow of information because if we

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wait China Russia and others will be more than happy to fill the void so Mr chairman I help I'm hopeful that the full Energy and Commerce Committee can report this bill to the floor soon and with that I yield back the balance will

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the general Lor yield yes over here on this side oh I certainly yield and the chairman I me thank you Mr Cardis thank you for for carrying this bill and and I I agree with your words I just wanted to point out there's some wonderful kids

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sitting in the back row here watching this hearing and I what I'd like to ask of them is if you young people when you go back to wherever part of the country you came to visit welcome to your Capital by the way can you please tell

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them we were in a Committee hearing and we couldn't tell the difference between the Republicans and the Democrats cuz they were all in agreement please please please share that fact thank you very much I yield back thank you I yield back

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okay the general yields back uh is there anyone else seeking recognition on the bill oh uh for what purposes gentle lady from Michigan seek recognition Mr chair I move to strike the last word um ladies recognize to strike the last word for

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five minutes as a co-chair of the Congressional 5G and Beyond caucus it's imperative that we take decisive action to lead in setting Wireless standards and promoting the adoption of advanced Wireless Technologies both at home and

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abroad ranking member matsuri's future uses of Technology upholding reliable and enhancing networks act or future networks act will establish a 6G task force which is a crucial step in competing against China securing our supply chains and facilitating the

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deployment of Wireless services in a more efficient and cost effective manner this legislation is also necessary to ensure American leadership and advanced Wireless Technologies by directing the FCC to convene a 6G task force made up

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of public and private sector stakeholders this legislation recognizes the role Wireless technology plays and connecting our communities driving economic growth bolstering National Security and fostering Innovation with China Vine for dominance in the

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Telecommunications sector and we will never seed our leadership ship we must continue to look forward towards the future to maintain our leadership position additionally I'm hopeful this 6G task force will explore key aspects

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of deploying this technology laying the groundwork now will enhance cyber security measures which we need and better protect American interests in an increasingly interconnected world the United States is a worldwide leader in

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Innovative Wireless Technologies and we must take proactive efforts to keep our Competitive Edge we must stay ahead of the curve and ensure that our networks remain at the Forefront of global Innovation supporting 6G Wireless

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technology will help ensure we continue to lead in this development and that is why I am proud to support the future networks act thank you Mr chairman and I yield back thank you the gentl lady oh do you claim the ladies time or you

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okay does anyone else seek recognition on the bill gentleman from Florida has recognized for five minutes strike the last word thank you chairman on April 3rd 2019 we had the Countrywide roll out of 5G and when you think about that date it

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was just less than a year later that we faced the biggest pandemic in a 100 years think about how having 5G ready helped us prepare uh as we're using our cell phones to help with Healthcare with zoom calls with business um with

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education uh and we rolled it out in a way that was safe for our Airlines and airports like Orlando International Airport and so I'm excited to be able to vote for the future networks act uh to help us get to 6G and uh this FCC task

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force will be absolutely critical when you look at the kind of power it's going to take to utilize artificial intelligence streaming tele medicine and other Technologies on our cell phone um it's it's going to be absolutely

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critical that we get to 6G sooner rather than later and it's important for private sector folks to come together industry experts members of the public along with the FCC to come up with rules of the road uh we lead the Free World we

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need to lead the communications of the free world including with 6G and so this is critical that we are proactive other bills on the agenda today are are going to help protect Americans and maintain our Competitive Edge against uh economic

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rals like China we don't know what the future will bring um hopefully not another pandemic on the horizon um but there are challenges both known and unknown ahead and so getting uh 6G in order and ready for uh the challenges of

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uh the future are absolutely critical and I applaud uh representative Matsui on this great bill today yield back thank you the gentleman yields back are there any other members wishing to seek recognition on the bill are there any bipar

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amendments are there any other amendments seeing none question now occurs on forwarding hr15 13 to the full committee and a requested roll call vote record a record recorded vote is requested the clerk will take the role

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bakus yes bakus votes I wallberg Walberg votes I Carter Carter votes I dun Curtis Curtis votes I Joyce Joyce votes I Weber Weber votes I Allan Allan votes I balderson balderson votes I fure fure votes I fluger fluger votes I harburger

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harshbarger votes I kamik oberti cherat I cherat votes I Matsui I Matsui votes I Clark VC I VC votes votes I SoDo Soo votes I ASU cardinus cardinus votes I Craig Craig votes I Fletcher Fletcher votes I Dingle Dingle votes I kuster

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kuster votes I Kelly Kelly votes I palone palone votes I chair Rogers chair Rogers votes I are there any other members wishing to have their vote recorded sing none the clerk will take the role chair L on that vote there were 23

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eyes and zero nose thank you very much the eyes have it and the bill is agreed to the chair calls up HR 7589 and asked the clerk to report HR 7589 a bill to direct the Secretary of Commerce acting through the assistant

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Secretary of Commerce for communications and information without objection the first reading of the bill is dispensed with and the bill will be open for Amendment at any time so ordered does anyone seek recognition on the

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bill are there any by partis amendments on the bill are there any other amendments seeing none the question now occurs on forwarding HR 7589 to the full committee a recorded vote is requested the clerk will take the role billus billus votes I Walberg Walberg

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votes I Carter Carter votes I dun Curtis Curtis votes I Joyce Joyce votes I Weber Weber votes I Allen Allen votes I balderson balderson votes I fure fure votes I fluger fluger votes I harburger harburger votes I kamik oberti Cher l i

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Cher L votes I Matt sui I Matsui votes I excuse me Clark VC VC votes I SoDo stto votes I ESU cardinas Craig Craig votes I Fletcher Fletcher votes I Dingle Dingle votes I kuster kuster votes I I Kelly Kelly votes I palone palone votes

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I chair Rogers chair Rogers votes I how is the gentleman from California recorded Mr cardinus is not recorded cardinus votes I are there any other members wishing to record their vote hearing none the clerk will take the

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role chair L on that vote there were 23 eyes and zero nose Thank you very very much the eyes have it and the bill is agreed to without objection staff is authorized to make Technical and conforming changes to the legislation

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approved by the subcommittee today so ordered without objection the subcommittee stands adjourned for

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